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Talking Newt with Jim Talent and Mark Steyn

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Former United States Senator Jim Talent was my guest in the first hour of today’s show, and expanded on the temperament/consistency argument he and John Sununu had made against Newt Gingrich earlier in the day:

[W]ith regard to Speaker Gingrich, what I said, and I said it with reluctance, because I served with the Speaker and under him, but I just said look, he’s not a reliable conservative leader, because he’s not a reliable leader. And we talked about his reaction to the Paul Ryan plan, which is just classic. I mean, that, Paul’s Medicare plan was the heart of his budget, which was the heart of conservative attempts to turn the government around. And the Speaker just out of nowhere said it was radical, right-wing social engineering and the conservatives’ version of Obamacare. And it just, it was a dagger in the heart of that measure, and an outrageous statement. And that’s the whole point. He has good ideas. Sometimes he has bad ideas. But then, he’ll just say outrageous things that undermine the agenda.

The transcript is here

Mark Steyn also expanded on the “not Newt” movement, and pointed out that it wasn’t just Beltway insiders who were taking rhetorical aim at the former Speaker. Steyn is about as “outside-the-Beltway” as they come, and his explanation of one of the sources of his concern over Gingrich. That transcript will be posted here later as well.


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