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Steyn and Kristol on Bachmann’s Attack On Perry

Friday, September 2, 2011  |  posted by Hugh Hewitt
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On my show yesterday Mark Steyn and Bill Kristol both weighed in on the attack on Rick Perry by Michele Bachmann’s superpac.

The complete transcript of my chat with Mark is here.

The conversation with Bill is here.

From the Steyn interview:

HH: I want to talk about the Tea Party roller derby, demolition derby, which is underway right now between Michele Bachmann, who I like, you like…

MS: Yes.

HH: Sarah Palin, who I like, you like, Rick Perry, who I like, you like. Listen to what Michele Bachmann’s superpac released today, Mark Steyn.

AD: Rick Perry says he’s one tough hombre on spending. “Number one is don’t spend all the money.” But what’s his record? Rick Perry doubled spending in a decade. And this year, Rick Perry’s spending more money than the state takes in, covering his deficits with record borrowing. And he’s supposed to be the Tea Party guy? There is an honest conservative, and she’s not Rick Perry. Paid for and authorized by Keep Conservatives United.

HH: What do you think about this, Mark Steyn?

MS: It took me a while to figure out that was Yellow Rose of Texas in the background, because it sounded like Dueling Banjos. So I quite wondered what they were working up to.

HH: (laughing)

MS: But I love, I adore Michele Bachmann. She’s been quoting my book on the stump in Iowa, and I thank her for that. And I think she’s an absolutely terrific candidate. I love to hear her interviewed, I love to hear her speak. As I was saying on this show a few weeks back, I don’t think some of the kind of slick guys she’s hired…

HH: Exactly.

MS: …on the consultant side really reflect what her campaign is about. And when Tim Pawlenty decided to go after Michele Bachmann, and make Michele Bachmann the issue of his campaign, he self-destructed. He self-destructed before our very eyes in nothing flat. And I would caution Mrs. Bachmann, who I think is a great asset to the campaign and a terrific candidate, and whom I love to hear speak, I would caution Mrs. Bachmann against letting these slick guys she’s paying huge sums of money to, actually turn her campaign, and turn her, her, into something she’s not.

And from Kristol:

HH: And very charismatic as well. Now the person who is also panicked is Michele Bachmann. Her superpac released this ad today, which I want to play for you, Bill Kristol, from the Michele Bachmann superpac.

AD: Rick Perry says he’s one tough hombre on spending. “Number one is don’t spend all the money.” But what’s his record? Rick Perry doubled spending in a decade. And this year, Rick Perry’s spending more money than the state takes in, covering his deficits with record borrowing. And he’s supposed to be the Tea Party guy? There is an honest conservative, and she’s not Rick Perry. Paid for and authorized by Keep Conservatives United.

HH: Now Bill Kristol, I love the smell of Ed Rollins in the morning.

BK: You know, I just thought of the name Ed Rollins the moment you said it, too.

HH: (laughing)

BK: That’s pathetic, I think, honestly.

HH: It is.

BK: 95% of the people who admire Michele Bachmann are well disposed to Rick Perry, and vice versa. And I would count myself among those, and Mitt Romney, too, for that matter. The last thing people want to see before Labor Day is negative attack ads, and pretty substance-free negative attack ads, I would say, by one conservative on another. I think it’s really a huge mistake for Michele Bachmann. Her brand, if I can use that term, which I don’t like, but let’s say why she’s interesting and attractive to people, is that she’s new, she’s different, she says what she believes, she’s a citizen politician. And here she is doing the most kind of hackneyed, silly attack ad on another conservative.

HH: Yeah, she’s upbeat, she’s always been ready to walk into a fray and smile when you say that…

BK: Right.

HH: …and to take on Chris Matthews…

BK: Right.

HH: …or in the case of Tim Pawlenty. And I know the superpac isn’t controlled by Team Bachmann, but I’ve got to wonder if Ed Rollins got into the water over at this place, because this is just, I 100% agree with you.

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