HH: I sent a copy to United States Senator Tom Cotton, but he’s been busy having delicate negotiations with Chuck Schumer. I don’t know if he’s had a chance to read The Fourth Way, yet, have you Senator?
TC: Hey, Hugh, congratulations on the publication of The Fourth Way. We’re three ways to your shameless seven namedropping plugs in one segment.
HH: The Luntz Rule is The Fourth Way, The Fourth Way, the Fourth Way, The Fourth Way. There, I’m done with that. Senator, what were you doing eight years ago? Chuck Schumer thought you should have been in the Senate. You would know better.
TC: (laughing) Well, eight years ago, I was watching the inauguration of Barack Obama from Afghanistan. But I also observed that Republicans in the Senate confirmed seven of Barack Obama’s nominees, and an eighth, Bob Gates, was already secretary of Defense. And we would have thought that the Democrats would have offered that level of cooperation this time around, especially on some of the non-controversial, bipartisan nominations for national security positions, like Pompeo as the director of the CIA. As we saw on Friday, that wasn’t the case. Hopefully, they’ll come to their sense. But if not, I think we’re prepared to go into voting around the clock to get these positions filled.
HH: Richard Burr, your colleague on the Intelligence Committee, Senator from North Carolina, used very blunt language about Chuck Schumer, said he lied to the Republicans. That does not help reestablish good order in the Senate, does it, to have your first commitment broken?
TC: Well, I’m more troubled about what it means going ahead in the future, Hugh. I’ve worked with Chuck Schumer on legislation before. I found him to be, you know, forthright, transactional. On this particular instance, though, we all thought that he had made a commitment to us that we would vote on Mike Pompeo’s nomination on Friday. I guess he hadn’t taken the temperature of the Democratic caucus, though. So that was unfortunate. Senator Schumer is still in his first month of leadership, so maybe as he gets a little more seasoning and experience, this won’t happen again. You know, one of the first things we learned in the Army about being a leader is you have to have control of your unit. And hopefully, in the future, we’ll be able to rely more on what Senator Schumer says when we get a commitment from him.
HH: I hope so.
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