Former Vice President Dick Cheney joined me for a wide-ranging conversation about American foreign policy on today’s show, which including his sobering assessment that American likely faces another devastating attack on the homeland before this decade is out. He and his daughter Liz Cheney, former Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of State of Near Eastern Affairs and chair of the Iran Syria Policy and Operations Group have launched The Alliance for a Strong America to keep national security and defense issues front and center heading in 2014 and 2016: \
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HH: Very pleased to have back as a special guest today, Vice President Richard Cheney, of course not just that, former Secretary of Defense, former chief of staff to the President, former member of the House, president of the Senate, husband of Lynne, father of Liz and Mary, grandpa, author of My Life. Welcome back, Mr. Vice President, always a pleasure to have you.
DC: Well, it’s good to talk to you, Hugh.
HH: I want to begin with an overview. I’ve got a lot to ask you about. The overview, though, is I think this is the foreign policy equivalent of a bridge collapse, or maybe many bridges collapsing in Iraq, al-Shabaab in Somalia, attacks in Kenya, Boko Haram in Nigeria, there were new abductions today, the Taliban attacked the Karachi Airport, killed 18 people. And now we’ve got Iraq falling apart. Am I not correct that this may be the low point of American foreign policy post-the disillusion of the Soviet Union, or at least since 9/11?
DC: Well, certainly since 9/11. Of course, we got hit here at home on 9/11, the worst attack on the homeland ever. But no, the thing that’s striking about it, and everybody’s sort of been focused in on Iraq, is how widespread this problem is. And one of the things I’ve always been amazed by is the extent to which this administration has gone out of its way to claim the problem was solved because they got bin Laden, or they keep talking about al Qaeda’s been decimated, the only thing left is Zawahiri, and he’s on his last legs kind of thing, when in reality, both from a factual standpoint as well as the anecdotal stuff you’ve just cited, it’s a bigger problem than ever. I don’t know if you saw the Rand study that came out here a couple of weeks ago that said in the four year period of time there had been a 58% increase in the number of al Qaeda type organizations out there, Salafi jihadist organizations. 58% in only four years, and a doubling of the number of people, an estimate, obviously, doubling of the number of people that are involved in these organizations. And they’re all like al Qaeda in terms of their basic outlook, their goals and objectives and so forth. And the administration has been wandering around saying that we don’t have a terrorist problem. Continue Reading