JC: I’m sure Mark Steyn, Columnist To the World, www.steynonline.com, understands about being insulted by Hugh now and then, don’t you?
MS: Yeah, he’s gotten in a dig at me over the years for one thing or another, I’ll say that, John.
JC: Yes, well, I’m not going to do that, because we have too much real stuff to talk about here. Now I have a few clips, Mark Steyn, that I would like to get you reaction on. Now this first one I’m going to play is my Senator here in California, whom I’m sure you are very fond of and adore, Senator Barbara Boxer. And in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing today, which Senator John Kerry was the witness, Senator Barbara Boxer said this, cut two:
BB: But that goes to your core as a human being, and your intelligence. And I think you’re highly intelligent. So let me ask you, and if you could just answer yes or not, I know it’s hard for you, Secretary Kerry, to do so, because we’re Senators and it’s not our way. But then I can get through the rest of my list. So my colleagues think that you were fleeced, that you were bamboozled. That means everybody was fleeced and bamboozled, everybody, almost everybody in the world. So I want to ask you, does the United Kingdom, our strong ally, support this accord?
JC: Mark Steyn, I could ask you specific, but I’ll just let you respond to that.
MS: Well, you were complaining about Hugh’s intro to you. You would have done better to have Barbara Boxer’s introduction today, one of the most intelligent men I’ve ever met. Save it for Craig’s List, Barbara, honestly. But the, “must have a good sense of humor”, but in a strange way, I kind of agree with her critique to this point. The Republican members of the committee were the ones who said that, accused John Kerry of being fleeced and of being bamboozled. And I don’t think that they were, to the extent that I think this is what they wanted. My view is that for whatever reason, Obama has decided that this is a kind of Nixon-China moment for him, in which he is reorienting the whole of Middle Eastern policy to place Iran, to rehabilitate Iran as a member of the global community, and the regional superpower in the Middle East and in effect, to turn his back on America’s traditional allies, being Israel, Saudi Arabia and the other Sunni Arab monarchies. So in that sense, I don’t think they were bamboozled, because I think they got what they wanted, which is this entire reorientation, as dramatic as when America abandoned Chang Kai Shek from Maoist China, as dramatic as that. And I think that was really their goal, for whatever reason. I don’t know why. I don’t know that it makes sense, but I think that’s what they wanted.
JC: Okay, well, then let’s now play this next clip showing, amongst the things that they got, this is Senator Bob Menendez, Democrat from New Jersey, questioning John Kerry and his response, cut one:
BM: It is true that the Iranians are going to be able to take the sample, as Senator Risch said, because the chain of custody means nothing if at the very beginning what you’re given is chosen and derived by the perpetrator.
JK: Well, as you know, Senator, that is a classified component of this. It’s supposed to be discussed in a classified session. We’re perfectly prepared to fully brief you in classified session with respect to what will happen. Secretary Moniz has had his team, red team, that effort, and he has made some additional add-ons to where we are. But it’s part of a confidential agreement between the IAEA and Iran as to how they do that. The IAEA has said that they are satisfied that they will be able to do this in a way that does not compromise their needs, and that adequately gets the answers that they need. We’ve been briefed on it. We’re happy to brief you.
BM: My time is up, but if that is true.
JK: So I’d like Secretary Moniz…
BM: That would be the equivalent of the fox guarding the chicken coop.
JK: Senator, I’m not confirming how it’s happening. I’m simply saying to you that we are confident the IAEA has the ability to be able to get the answers that they need.
JC: Yeah, okay, so Mark Steyn, your reaction to the idea that Iran gets to present their own samples of nuclear material, and that that’s the way the inspection works?
JC: Mark, you’re back?
JC: Did you hear that clip?
MS: I didn’t hear that last clip. What was that one about? Don’t play it again. Just tell me what it was about.
JC: There’s news today that the Iranians get to choose their own, they get to provide samples….
MS: Oh, yeah. No, no, I did hear that one.
MS: I mean realistically, this inspection regime is an idiocy, and it’s designed, I think, that way that there’s never going to be any inspections. All the component parts of it, they get to provide their own samples, they get to string things out for just short of a month if they don’t want to be inspected. If you look at, for example, the Keystone Pipeline from Canada, the Keystone Pipeline from Canada has been subjected to a greater inspections regime than Iran’s nuclear program will ever be subjected to, because Obama cares more about stopping Canada getting its pipeline than Iran getting the bomb. That’s the reality.
JC: Yeah, okay, let me now go into, switch gears a little bit. Have you heard that Hillary Clinton apparently is having trouble with the black vote, because she made the mistake some time ago of saying that all lives matter, rather than black lives matter. And so now, this is another comment she made that she’s having some trouble with, clip number four:
HRC: I mean, if we’re honest, for a lot of well-meaning, open-minded white people, the sight of a young black man in a hoodie still evokes a twinge of fear.
JC: You have some comments about Hillary Clinton and her problems with the black vote?
MS: Well, you know, the funny thing is Hillary Clinton has these fantastic political instincts, that she’s one of these politicians who can never put a foot right. And that’s the way she’s been since she launched her campaign. The one thing she did get right was she stayed away from that crazy Netroots Nation conference where Martin O’Malley was humiliated in that. He gets booed when he says all lives matter. He gets booed when he says white lives matter after saying black lives matter. And then he issues a groveling apology. And if you go back to Bill Clinton in his heyday, what the master was brilliant at is understanding when you can use your party’s own base to sell yourself to the broader electorate. And when he had his famous Sister Souljah moment of slapping down Sister Souljah, Hillary isn’t nimble enough to do that, and I expect she’ll just end up issuing some twisted, pretzel-like tortured apology. But after that, all, if it’s somehow wrong to say among the Democratic party base to say all lives matter, then it’s the base that’s wrong. And Martin O’Malley, particularly as this sort of insurgent, but also Hillary, they would have done themselves a power of good standing up and slapping them down for that. But they don’t have that courage, and they don’t have that integrity.
JC: We have a little less than a minute left in case you want to say anything about either the Donald or the new candidate this week, John Kasich.
MS: Well look, the reason Donald Trump is sucking all the air out of the room is less to do with his own campaign launch as the Republican establishment’s launch to it. And when you have people like Senator McCain dismissing potentially one-fifth of the Republican base as crazies, you know, those guys, guys like McCain and Reince Priebus has to learn how to insult Donald Trump without insulting his supporters. That way, they will condemn the Republican Party to lose.
JC: Mark Steyn, thank you as always, www.steynonline.com, America.
End of interview.