HH: But I begin today’s program on every Thursday when I am lucky with Mark Steyn, Columnist To the World, but I must say, a typical journalist who has never worked a day in his life. Hello, Mark.
MS: (laughing) You may be right on that one, Hugh.
HH: I want to play for people the quote from Hilary Rosen, part of Team Obama, last night on CNN, and then talk to Mark Steyn, one of the journalistic class about who works harder – Washington, D.C. Beltway talking heads or stay at home moms. Here’s the cut, cut number one:
HR: First, could we just get rid of this word war on women? The Obama campaign does not use it. President Obama does not use it. This is something that the Republicans are accusing people of using, but they’re actually the ones spreading it. With respect to economic issues, I think actually that Mitt Romney’s right, that ultimately, women care more about the economic well-being of their families and the like. But he doesn’t connect on that issue, either. What you have is Mitt Romney running around the country saying well, you know, my wife tells me that what women really care about are economic issues. And when I listen to my wife, that’s what I’m hearing. Guess what? His wife has actually never worked a day in her life.
HH: Mark Steyn, what do you make of that one?
MS: Well, just on the first point, that the Democrats are not using the war on women phrase, yes, they are. Nancy Pelosi’s using it. Just in their emails, they’re sending it out to raise money using this phrase – the Republican war on women. Nancy Pelosi’s been doing it, the Democratic National Committee has been doing it. So that’s nonsense. On the fact that a woman of five children has never worked a day in her life versus Hilary Rosen who was in some sort of administrative position with the fellows who hand out the Grammy’s, the Recording Industry Association of America, it’s not very difficult, this. If you pick any 24 year old woman who’s got three children, and a 24 year old woman who’s, say, doing an entry level job, it’s not hard just by looking at them to tell the one who goes to sleep more exhausted at night. She insulted, by the way, this idea, then when she dug down and she said oh, well, these days, it’s only rich women who can afford not to work, that’s not true at all, by the way. The average salary of a family, average income of a family where the mother doesn’t work is $49,000, which is a lot less than Hilary Rosen earns. So this idea that Ann Romney is atypical and out of touch, well, she may be. But Hilary Rosen, a member of the overcredentialed Beltway paper shuffling class, is also entirely out of touch with working women. Hilary Rosen wouldn’t know for a moment what it was like to be doing a couple of waitressing shifts at the diner, and then maybe a second job at a convenience store, and doing a little house cleaning, freelance house cleaning on the side. She has no idea what that world is like. No idea whatsoever.
HH: Speaking of that world, she summoned it up today. She went on CNN to try and do a mea culpa, because a storm has broken over Hilary Rosen and the Obama campaign, which she clearly represented when she was there for Anderson Cooper yesterday, using their talking points. Here’s Hilary Rosen this morning on CNN, cut number 7.
WB: Hillary, you said that Ann Romney ‘never worked a day in her life.’
HR: Yes, and that was, look, I’m a mother, right? Anybody who knows me knows that that’s not what I meant. And I prefaced the comment by an economic comment. I respect women and moms all the time. I’ve fought my whole life for women to make choices, to have the choices that Ann Romney talked about. I’m impressed that she defends them nicely. I like that her kids are out there. That’s not what this is about.
HH: And here’s another comment from Hilary Rosen.
HR: This is not about Ann Romney. This is about the waitress at a diner in, you know, someplace in Nevada, who has two kids whose daycare funding is being cut off because of the Romney/Ryan budget. And she doesn’t know what to do. This isn’t about whether Ann Romney or I, or other women of some means can afford to make a choice to stay home and raise kids. Most women in America, let’s face it, don’t have that choice.
HH: Mark Steyn, do you think that she has a clue about what she’s speaking?
MS: I don’t think she has, actually. This woman, by the way, I’m not sure I was really aware of her existence until 24 hours ago. But she’s almost like a parody of the elite bubble described in Charles Murray’s marvelous new book, Coming Apart. She latches onto this waitress in Nevada. I used another, a different kind of waitressing analogy a couple of minutes ago. But she conjures this one out of air. I don’t think she has the imaginative capacity to understand how that woman lives, because I tell you. I know a lot of waitresses. And waitresses aren’t actually thinking about federally subsidized daycare, or whatever point she was making there. The point is this woman is in her bubble. She thought she could do the kind of dinner party crack. Ann Romney is some plastic Stepford wife who stands next to her plastic husband, with a big plastic smile, and their five plastic, perfect kids. And that gets a big laugh when you’re at the Georgetown dinner party circuit. She said it on CNN, and she offended millions and millions of women who do not share the same lazy assumptions of the Hilary Rosen types in their little elite bubble.
HH: You know, it was a little bit reminiscent of the people who cling to God and their guns in Pennsylvania, Mark Steyn.
MS: Yes, I think that’s true. I think…and people shouldn’t be fooled about this, that the elites have, take a very condescending view of the people they have to get past to enjoy their elite life. I mean, what was interesting about the clinging to God and guns thing is that Obama was actually not talking about crazy, stump-toothed Republicans in Mississippi. He was talking about Democratic Party primary voters.
MS: He was talking about his own party’s base.
HH: All right, talking about someone who’s in denial of reality, here is Jay Carney today as the storm of criticism breaks over the President and his surrogate, Hilary Rosen. Jay Carney does one of the funniest 50 seconds I think I’ve ever heard of who, oh, what are we talking about here? Cut number 11:
JC: First of all, I haven’t seen the records. I don’t know that Hilary Rosen, I know three, personally, women named Hilary Rosen, so I’m not sure that does represent the person we’re talking about necessarily. So I really can’t comment on a number of visits since I’m not sure that’s accurate.
Reporter: Can you talk about the degree of this particular Hilary Rosen’s…
JC: I don’t know how many times she’s been here. She’s not a, you know, she is a Democratic strategist. She’s a CNN contributor, as far as I know. And I don’t, I don’t know how to assess her overall relationship with people here in the White House. But I do not, I have not seen her here very frequently.
HH: Let me give you the equivalent to this, Mark Steyn. If someone came up to me and said Steyn said on your show last week, I’d say well, I know three or four Steyns, and I’m not sure, I’ve never actually seen Steyn in my studio, so I’m not sure what Steyn has said, and so I really, I can’t comment on it.
MS: This could be any one those Steyns. By the way, among major Democratic Party strategists, you know, Hilary, it’s apparently a common name. It’s like Mohammed when you’re talking with the jihadist guys, you know, and there’s different ways to spell it. It might be Hillary with two L’s. That could be someone entirely different coming in. Honestly, you know, these records are very inaccurate. It’s not as if we have retinal scans or anything.
HH: (laughing) So Mark Steyn, generally speaking, the President’s had like the worst two weeks in his political career, beginning with the Medvedev whisper, and then talking about the Supreme Court not having its Marbury V. Madison 1803 powers anymore.
HH: And then having Hilary Rosen go on, and as a surrogate, attack all moms. Do you think it’s going to get worse for him, because he’s flat on his face right now, and I don’t care how many Washington Post polls say he’s ahead. He’s struggling.
MS: Well, none of it seems to be quite working. I mean, I sort of quite like the audacity of that, you know, the Supreme Court, they’ve never overturned a law that’s been passed by an elected legislature. That would be a stunning, unprecedented act. And that in result of that is that the Supreme Court’s popularity is apparently gone up since he decided to basically say well, you know, nice little Supreme Court you’ve got here. It would be a shame if anything were to happen to it. When you say he’s had a rough couple of weeks, he hasn’t really, though. I mean, what is interesting to me is that according to the Congressional Budget Office, on Obama’s own 2013 budget, the entire U.S. economy will implode and collapse, and cease to exist in the year 2027. That’s the Congressional Budget Office’s own analysis of it. And yet, this guy is still going around demonizing Paul Ryan, doing the social Darwinism stuff. And his approval rating’s still holding up there.
HH: Not for long, Mark Steyn. Thank you for joining us. www.steynonline.com, America.
End of interview.