HH: Another slow day on which I begin with Mark Steyn, Columnist to the World. Mark Steyn, greetings and good to have you. I begin with the fact that two women have been arrested in New York City for trying to bomb New York City. And al-Shabaab has mercilessly executed 147 at a Kenyan university this morning. Things are quiet around the globe thanks to the leadership of President Obama.
MS: Yeah, that’s right. It’s Maundy Thursday, as we Anglicans say, I think Holy Thursday is what the Catholics say, and a terrible way to wake up with the news of this al-Shabaab assault where again, they demanded to know whether people were Christian or whether they were Muslim, and then at this university in Kenya, they killed all the Christians. They haven’t started killing them, yet, in Indiana, but this TV reporter going from pizzeria to coffee shop and demanding to know what the proprietors were Christian and what they thought of the legislation in Indiana, and then finding some poor sap who was willing to talk to her. And then the big gay enforcers descended on that pizzeria and forced it to close down. That’s actually a difference of degree. And that does not speak well for Indiana any more than what happened in Kenya speaks well for East Africa.
HH: Now Mark Steyn, I am a huge fan of Apple. I own every Apple device. I’ve got two of them in front of me. I think Tim Cook is a visionary. And I haven’t sold a share of the stock since I’ve got it. I’ve still got it. I believe in it. It’s a great product. On the other hand, he wrote this piece in the Washington Post, and he did not mention. I called his PR people and invited him to come on. I’d like to hear him answer this. He is selling products in Saudi Arabia. He is selling products in China. These are two of the world’s worst human rights violators. There is no freedom of religion in Saudi Arabia. In China, people are thrown in jail for gathering for prayer. You never see them again. What in the world prompts American CEO’s to attack a Religious Freedom Restoration Act which has been in effect in Washington, D.C. since 1993 without a single instance of the discrimination of the sort worried about by critics of the Indiana law?
MS: Yeah, you’re right. In a sense, a company like Apple has no nationality, has no borders. It’s global. And it does business with whoever wants it to do business with. I have no doubt that if Kim Jong Un made them the right offer, Apple would happily do business with Kim Jong Un. The Iranian government, after today’s events, will have a lot more money with which to buy a lot more Apple products, and I’m sure he looks forward, Apple looks forward to opening up in the Iranian market. They pick on Indiana because they can. And that’s the difference. That’s why they don’t, there’s nothing accidental about this. People who think that litigious betrothed gays are accidentally stumbling into homophobic bakeries, it’s an organized campaign targeting these bakeries. Now they’re not going into the nice, little Muslim patisserie in Dearborn, Michigan, or Falls Church, Virginia, and demanding that the Muslim bakers bake them a gay wedding cake, because they know they’d get an entirely different kind of response. Muscle respects muscle. And so Apple is happy to intimidate Indiana, but it understands that it’s, when it comes to Iran, that it’s not going to be able to intimidate them. And that’s why, and that’s why, and as you say, Apple makes very fine products. And congratulations to them on that. But when the CEO of a global company thinks that the biggest issue facing the world today is homophobic wedding cakes in Indiana is nuts, and he’s a bully, because bullies pick the weak targets, and Indiana Christians are a weak target, just like these poor Christian students in Kenya are a weak target.
HH: You know, the weakest target of all, honestly, I think I’m going to go after a Mormon in Minnesota. They will not only retreat before any demand, they’ll make you a hot dish.
MS: Right, right.
HH: And the person, the only person…and President Obama is going to show up there. The only person President Obama can do a deal with are the mullahs. I want to turn to that. A couple of amazing things he said today, Mark Steyn, and I want to play for you some President Obama audio from the Rose Garden earlier today, cut number nine:
BO: Now should negotiations collapse because we, the United States, rejected what the majority of the world considers a fair deal, what our scientists and nuclear experts suggest would give us confidence that they are not developing a nuclear weapon. It’s doubtful that we can even keep our current international sanctions in place. So when you hear the inevitable critics of the deal sound off, ask them a simple question. Do you really think that this verifiable deal, if fully implemented, backed by the world’s major powers, is a worse option than the risk of another war in the Middle East?
HH: Okay, now Mark Steyn, every part, every arm of the typical Obama straw man is there – the scientists who don’t exist, the nuclear experts who don’t agree…
HH: …the fact that it’s going to be out fault, the fact that the world’s on board when in fact, they’re not…
HH: …and the fact that everybody in the world wants us to sign this, and the alternative is war. It’s like the burning man of burning men straw men.
MS: It’s the nuclear straw man, in fact. It’s a straw man Iran’s Fordo nuclear facility buried in that mountain that has gone into a full straw man meltdown. There’s not truth in most of that, and in fact, everyone who is Iran’s neighbor – Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states, Egypt, Israel, they are most certainly not in favor of this deal. And the idea that there’s universal pressure to accede to it is preposterous. You know, we’re supposed to dignify these negotiations as some kind of accomplishment by John Kerry. I gather the talks were near to collapse when the Iranian foreign minister proposed converting the Fordo nuclear facility into a homophobic bakery. At that point, the Americans threatened to walk out and the whole thing looked it was going to collapse. But fortunately, they said they’re going to keep the centrifuges spinning in that underground facility that can’t be bombed, but that they’re going to use it for some kind of research facility. This basically is the rest of the world signing off on Iran becoming a nuclear threshold state with the world’s approval.
HH: And here’s the next part of the Obama big lie, cut number 11:
BO: This is not simply a deal between my administration and Iran. This is a deal between Iran, the United States of America and the major powers in the world, including some of our closest allies. If Congress kills this deal not based on expert analysis, and without offering any reasonable alternative, then it’s the United States that will be blamed for the failure of diplomacy. International unity will collapse. And the path to conflict will widen. The American people understand this, which is why solid majorities support a diplomatic resolution to the Iranian nuclear issue. They understand instinctively the words of President Kennedy, who faced down the far greater threat of communism and said never let us, never negotiation out of fear, but let us never fear to negotiate. The American people remember that at the height of the Cold War, presidents like Nixon and Reagan struck historic arms control agreements with the Soviet Union, a far more dangerous adversary.
HH: Now Mark Steyn, I knew Richard Nixon. Richard Nixon was a friend of mine. And Richard Nixon submitted his deal to Congress, as did Ronald Reagan.
MS: Right, right. No, you’re absolutely right, Hugh. I mean, what has happened here I think is that in effect, the framework for a deal continuing until June 30th is designed to undercut any Congressional opposition to the deal.
HH: And so that there is no way we’re going to be…we are dependent on France, Mark Steyn. This is really where we’ve come down to. Evidently, France is the toughest one, and has threatened to interpose their veto at the Security Council if inspection doesn’t happen, and if the export of the uranium enriched to Russia doesn’t happen. And we have to hope that France stands strong. Let me close by asking you about the politics of Hillary and her serve. She has brazenly wiped it down, and she got rid of the Sidney Blumenthal million emails from his private intelligence network, which at least to some people appear maybe to have skirted the outskirts of the Foreign Agent Registration Act. Does she get away with this?
MS: Well, you know, the fact is Trey Gowdy offered her, I think, some kind of private meeting with his committee. In other words, he accepted Hillary Clinton’s view of herself, that she is not one of the 300 million citizens of this country, but she is some kind of special person. She’s like Barbra Streisand in politics. When Barbra Streisand comes into a room, you’ve got to have it carpeted before she’ll enter it, because otherwise, it might affect her voice. And Hillary Clinton regards herself as belonging to a special category. And the job, if any of this, these checks and balances things in the Constitution mean anything, the job of Trey Gowdy and other congressmen is to remind Mrs. Clinton that she is a citizen of the United States, no different from you, and no different from any other employee of the United States government when it comes to the bureaucratic requirements.
HH: Do you expect that to happen? 20 seconds.
MS: Well, given the way the Republican Party has behaved from Washington to Indiana to Arkansas in this last week, I think one would have to say that’s a bit of a long shot. But if I ever ran for the House of Representatives, Hugh, I can assure you it would happen. She’s supposed, if she’s going to be the president, she’s going to be a citizen president, not a queen.
HH: Oh, I thought we might have heard the prospect of a Steyn for House race there. We’ll follow up on that next week on the next Hugh Hewitt Show.
End of interview.