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House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Mike McCaul on Director Comey’s Statements and Hillary Clinton’s recklessness on Emails

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HH: Joined now by Chairman McCaul. Chairman McCaul, I just had Loretta Sanchez on. She is the first Democrat I’ve ever endorsed for anything in the United States Senate campaign. She’s one of your colleagues on Homeland Security, isn’t she?

MM: She is, actually. She claims she’s a Republican, but I’m not too sure about that.

HH: Well, she’s not a Republican, but she’s a lot better than the other Democrat out here, so first time I’ve ever done it, and I’m kind of shaky. I’ve never, ever endorsed a Democrat. So Chairman McCaul, you’re in charge of Homeland Security. What did you make of Director Comey’s statements about Mrs. Clinton carrying her devices abroad? It’s so reckless what she did.

MM: Yeah.

HH: Would you explain to people why?

MM: Well, he said it was reckless. And I was a federal prosecutor. I know Comey. I knew him when he was a U.S. Attorney, and have a lot of respect for him. But I’ve lost some respect with his announcement. And I think above all, Hugh, it’s really not the role of the FBI to tell the prosecutors what to do in terms of prosecution. It’s the FBI’s job to investigate a case and then refer it over for prosecution. And so that decision, ultimately, is with the prosecutor themselves. And he seemed to say a reasonable prosecutor, in his words, would not prosecution this case given the allegations. And I thought that was not the role of the FBI to play. I thought he overstepped his bounds. And I was disappointed. And of course, the Attorney General, who met with Bill Clinton just a week prior, which I thought was unethical, declined the case yesterday. So the whole thing is very disappointing. I think she put herself and others in danger of also a nation-state hack into that computer with very, very sensitive classified information.

HH: The New York Times headline yesterday, Hillary Clinton’s email was probably hacked, experts say, in the David Sanger…Mike Morell told me that a year ago on this show that of course, they had everything on that server.

MM: Yeah.

HH: And then Tom Cotton said yesterday he never even takes a device to Canada because of the way our adversaries operate. And she had many devices abroad, clearly endangering the national security. Is that your conclusion as well?

MM: Yeah. I mean, we don’t take our iPhones or Blackberries into Russia, China, a couple of other states I can’t mention, but because they’ll swipe the data. They’ll steal it. And you know, Comey did say that her server had not been compromised by a nation-state. I’m not sure about that. We’re looking into that.

HH: Actually, he said they can’t tell if it was compromised.

MM: Can’t tell. But he did say that people that communicate with her on the server had been compromised by nation-states, so it’s possible that hers could be. That’s correct. And so I just, it’s not just, it’s not careless, it’s reckless. And that’s a different standard under the law. And you know, I just, again, very, very disappointed. I guess a different standard applies if you’re the Clintons. And above all, Hugh, we know the reason why she was doing it was to basically circumvent the Freedom of Information Act so that none of this information could be make public.

HH: 30 seconds, Congressman.

MM: Yes.

HH: Jason Chaffetz is leading the questioning today.

MM: Yeah.

HH: Do you expect your colleagues to be disciplined? I don’t want speeches. I just want them to ask a thousand questions. Will they do that?

MM: Well, I hope that’s the case. I think sometimes, we can be our own worst enemy. We’ve got to be disciplined and get to the point, and make a good point, and not give a speech. I agree with you.

HH: Yeah, we don’t need, I just need data. I need to know how many of the 33,000 she deleted have been recovered, for example. Congressman Mike McCaul, chairman of Homeland Security, good to talk to you.

End of interview.


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