Frank Gaffney has been cited by Mike Huckabee as one of the two guys he gets foreign policy advice from, the other being The New York Times’ Thomas Friedman. Here’s my exchange with Gaffney on yesterday’s show (transcript here):
HH: Since you’re one of the unofficial advisors to Mike Huckabee, I want to play for you a little Huckabee quote from, concerning Iran. Cut number five. He made this in a speech earlier this year.
MH: We haven’t had diplomatic relationships with Iran in almost thirty years, most of my entire adult life. And a lot of good it’s done. Putting this in human terms, all of us know that when we stop talking to a parent or a sibling, or even a friend, it’s impossible to resolve the difference to move that relationship forward. Well, the same is true for countries.
HH: What do you think, Frank Gaffney?
FG: Well, for the purposes of setting the record straight, Hugh, I want you and your audience to recall that the other guy he mentioned in this New York Times Sunday Magazine interview as advising him was Tom Friedman of the New York Times. And that sounds a lot more like Tom’s advice than my advice. I think that’s cockamamie, and in fact, I had an hour and a half, I think, conversation with Governor Huckabee a couple of months ago over breakfast, and this was one of the main points on which I tried to educate him, that this is not a sibling that you just aren’t having a good time with. This is a country run by megalomaniacs bent on an apocalyptic outcome, who believe that bringing about a world without America is their god-given obligation. And you know, just talking with them, you know, can’t we all get along, Rodney King style, is not a prescription for a serious foreign policy, I’m afraid.
I also interviewed Christopher Hitchens about the race (and many other things) yesterday. That transcript is here. If you are Huckabee supporter, you may want to skip it, as “dolt” and “provincial ignoramous” are part of the Hitchens flaying of Huck. I don’t agree with that, but it foreshadows what would happen to Huckabee if he was actually the nominee. People who have spent their lives fighting the mullah’s theocracy –and the survivors of those who have seen their loved ones lay down their lives because of the terrorism exported from Tehran– will not tolerate naivete about the regime from the former Arkansas governor.