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Congresswoman Michele Bachmann prepared to spend Christmas in Iowa?

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HH: We begin with one of the people in the arena, the little engine that could, Michele Bachmann, our favorite Congresswoman from Minnesota. Hello, Congresswoman, welcome back.

MB: Well, thank you so much. It’s always a thrill to be with you, Hugh.

HH: is her website. Michele, let’s start, Congresswoman, with your line at Liberty University today. You called yourself the comeback kid. Explain to people.

MB: Well, that’s because we had won the Iowa Straw Poll, the first woman ever to win as a candidate, and a short amount of time to win. And then after that, Governor Perry got into the race, the numbers changed. And now, we’re on our way back up. Another poll came back out in Iowa. We’re headed back up again. So we’re excited. I think that’s something that American people like to see in a race, is they, you have your ups, you have your downs, and we’re happy to see us on the way back up again.

HH: Now the big news of the day on the presidential side, Congresswoman, is that Florida is moving up its presidential primary to January 31st. Will you compete in that primary if they follow through on that?

MB: Well, we’ll be competing in all of them. We did not compete in the Florida Straw Poll this last weekend. We had a make a decision whether we would compete in Iowa or Florida. We made a decision in Iowa. We won that one. So we released our supporters to support whoever they wanted in Florida. But we told them that that did not mean that we would not be competing in the primary in Florida. But our strategy has been from the beginning, we go in order. We are focusing on Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and then Florida. So we’ll be competing.

HH: Will we see you down in the Sunshine State at all campaigning?

MB: Oh, my goodness, yes. We’ve already been there. I’ve held huge rallies already down in Florida. I was actually the first candidate in the race to do a big bus tour down in Florida. We had 1,500 people in Sarasota, we had people all over. I toured the Bay of Pigs Museum down in Miami, and the Versailles Café. We’ve been all over Florida, and we look forward to going back again soon.

HH: Now of course, this may put the Iowa Caucuses way up. You may have to be campaigning through Christmas. Do you expect that you’re going to be campaigning through the holiday and singing Christmas carols in Des Moines?

MB: It looks quite possible, but I’ve spent many Christmases in Iowa. I was born there, and raised there, and so that’s not a bad place to be for Christmas time. I’ll just stay with my relatives, so it won’t bother me at all.

HH: All right, let’s go to the news of the day, Congresswoman. At his hour, an arrest of a man who had plotted to blow up the Capitol and the Pentagon, al Qaeda is will with us. What would you do differently at president with regards to homeland security?

MB: Well, number one, I would not be leading from behind. That has been the policy of the Obama administration. And I believe very strongly that intelligence, I sit on the permanent select committee on intelligence. We deal with the nation’s classified secrets. They have to have the authority that they need to have to be able to secure the nation’s perimeter. We are not keeping our eye on the ball. And I think that the problem has been that the president of the United States unfortunately puts daylight between our relationship with our ally, Israel. I think because the President made that foolish mistake, now there are radical groups that see that the United States is weak, and they are looking at coming back into the United States with American citizens, with evil intentions and designs. And so I think as president of the United States, we need to send a signal of strength, and not a signal of weakness.

HH: Do you think that the border fence is part of this homeland security discussion? Or is that purely an immigration discussion?

MB: No, it is homeland security. That’s why I do believe that we have to build the fence on every inch of the southern border. But I also believe that we have to have boots on the ground as well to back that up. Our Border Patrol agents have not had the backing of the federal government. They will have my backing. They will be fully resourced. And when they are following the law, they will have my support. And I will also enforce the law through the ICE agents. They’ve essentially been told in many ways that they don’t need to worry about enforcing our laws in the interior. That’s wrong. We need to enforce America’s immigration law, and I will.

HH: I’m talking with Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, who was at Liberty University today. And Congresswoman, fundraising has been in a number of the stories about you in the last few weeks. Obviously, you don’t have the superPACs that Governor Romney and Governor Perry do, but do you have the resources to stay in the field in Iowa and the other early states between now and the time they vote?

MB: Well, we do. Our fundraising is keeping pace with what we have been doing before, and even better, our expenditures are keeping in line. That’s what we need to do, that’s what the federal government needs to do, make sure that we don’t spend more than what we take in. So we’ve been very prudent, and we’re going to continue to do that. But of course, we can always use more. So we would love to have your supporters, your radio listeners, go to We have a September 30th deadline, and we would love to have some support from Hugh Hewitt supporters today.

HH: People have always supported you on this program. They’ve always come through for you in the past.

MB: They’re incredible.

HH: And I’m sure they want to keep you in the field. Now Congresswoman, I want to play for you the president of the United States at the Congressional Black Caucus. These are many of your colleagues with whom you’ve been working for many years. Listen to what the President had to say to them.

BHO: Take off your bedroom slippers. Put on your marching shoes. Shake it off. Stop complaining. Stop grumbling. Stop crying. We are going to press on. We’ve got work to do.

HH: So Congresswoman, have you heard your colleagues across the aisle complaining and whining and grumbling about the President?

MB: Well, there has been a lot of complaining about the President, and with due reason. There’s a 47% unemployment rate among African-American youth, and a 36% unemployment rate among Hispanic youth. So the President was just out there today, speaking to Hispanic-Americans, trying to shore up their support. And the main thing the President needs to do is not pass his politically correct jobs agenda. What he needs is to have real jobs. And so therefore, he should put a moratorium on Obamacare. UBS released a study last week that said the number one reason why people are not employing people is because of Obamacare, because Obamacare adds about a $2,000-$3,000 dollar tax on the head of every employee that an employer hires. That hurts the unskilled workers more than anyone. So if President Obama wants to help the African-American community and the Hispanic community, he would actually focus on job creation, not on job stifling, because as we just heard today, the President is trying to pass another six and a half billion dollars worth of loan guarantees through the Department of Energy by tomorrow. That averages $23 million dollars a job. We can’t afford any more jobs under this president.

HH: And that goes to the Solyndra scandal as well. Has that, have you had a chance to dive into the Solyndra scandal yet, Michele Bachmann?

MB: Yes.

HH: And what’s your opinion of it?

MB: Yes, I have. Well, it is typical crony capitalism, where the head of the Kaiser Foundation invested in President Obama’s campaign, and it was an investment that paid off, because he got $535 million dollar loan guarantee from the Department of Energy. And of course, before the end of this month, the Obama administration is trying to literally push billions of dollars out the door for more of these phony programs again. This is horrendous. Today, they passed a loan guarantee for about a billion dollars, and that’s for 52 to 55 jobs. And the one that they want to get out the door tomorrow, another six and a half billion, as I said, would be $23 million dollars a job. At that rate, like I said, we can’t afford any more Obama jobs.

HH: Congresswoman, I want to go back to Obamacare in the last couple of minutes we have. You have been trying to stop Obamacare for as long as I’ve known you. And I don’t think the debates have focused much time or attention on Obamacare, other than the occasional question. Are you disappointed that the moderators and the panelists have not put more attention on what is probably the worst blunder on the domestic side of the Obama presidency?

MB: Well, there’s no question about that, because the reason why this is so crucial is because 2012 is it. I firmly believe that we have the backing of the American people to repeal Obamacare. However, if we don’t have a nominee that is committed to its repeal, we won’t get rid of it. And if we don’t get rid of it, Hugh, in 2012, we will never get rid of it. And while in the future we may elect a Republican president in the future, we will never again control the agenda, because the agenda will be controlled by Obamacare. And Obamacare puts a tax on the head of every American, and a tax on the head of every employee. And so it will continually be a drag on our economy if we keep it. It will spike up health care costs, and it will mean rationing for the rest of us in the United States. On every level, it’s a terrible bill. It steals over $500 billion dollars out of Medicare. And it gives an enormous amount of monopolistic power to the president of the United States. It has to go, and I am committed to the full-scale repeal. And I’m committed to electing 13 more like-minded Republican Senators, because that’s what it will take to have a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate to get the full-scale repeal through.

HH: Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, always a pleasure, always bracing. Tomorrow is the end of the quarter. Get her $10, $15, $25, $100 dollars. Help keep her in the field, America. She’s a very great voice for freedom.

End of interview.


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