Carly Fiorina joined me today to discuss the Iowa Caucuses:
HH: It’s Hugh Hewitt, joined now by Carly Fiorina which marks the 145th interview that I’ve done with a would-be GOP nominee since the first Republican debate. Carly Fiorna, welcome back to the Hugh Hewitt Show.
CF: Thank you, Hugh. Wow. You’ve been counting, I’m flattered. 145 times, hm?
HH: 145 interviews with GOP debates. I believe you have the leading number, but nevertheless, today’s breaking news is right in your alleyway. Convened to investigate Planned Parenthood’s trade in baby parts, a grand jury in Houston today, instead of indicting Planned Parenthood, indicted two ant-abortion activists who made the videos. Your reaction.
CF: Yes, well, this is why it’s a fight for the character of our nation. We know for a fact that because of Planned Parenthood’s own announcement that they would no longer accept payments for what they call “fetal tissue,” and they were in fact trafficking in baby body parts. So guess what? I’m not going to sit down and be quiet as I said at the March for Life in Washington, D.C. on Friday before the snowstorm descended. I will not sit down and be quiet, I know the value of life, we know what’s going on, and I will continue to stand for the character of this nation.
HH: Now I don’t know anything about Harris County district attorney Devon Anderson. I do know that the district attorneys of Texas have been remarkably political, but Rick Perry appointed Devon Anderson, so one tends to believe she’s a Democrat. You might not indict Planned Parenthood if there’s not enough evidence, but how can you indict filmmakers and journalists?
CF: I don’t know. From what I read, somehow the charge is that they falsified government identities because that’s true obviously, that’s not good, but I only know what I read at this point, but I think it’s pretty clear that we now know what goes on in Planned Parenthood clinics.
HH: And so, is it your position that the indictment of the filmmakers in no way goes to the efficacy of what they produced?
CF: Here’s what I know: Planned Parenthood has been trafficking in body parts. Planned Parenthood has been altering late-term abortion techniques to this specific purpose of harvesting body parts. In President Fiorina budget, there will not be a single dime for Planned Parenthood.
HH: Now Carly Fiorina, we’ll come back to this as we learn more what the grand jury did or did not do in the days ahead. We are a week from Iowa, how do you spend the last six days as you try and rally support for those caucuses?
CF: Well, I am, as we speak, driving a car off Iowa on Highway 80 through a snowstorm to get to Council Bluffs for a town hall meeting tonight, so what I’m going to be doing in this last week is talking to every Iowan I can.
HH: Are people’s minds still not made up? This is, as I said, I’ve done a 145 interviews, I bet you everyone in Council Bluffs has done a 146.
CF: Well, people’s minds are still not made up. Every single town hall I’ve been to, people come up to me in the end and say, “Okay, I’ve made up my mind now, I’m caucusing for you. So people are not yet decided, and I think that we forget that it’s this way every time. Iowa caucus-goers, New Hampshire primary voters, they decide late, and they are this time too, which is why the polls are the polls, and the pundits are the pundits, and the media is the media, and the establishment is the establishment. In the end, it’s going to come down to both.
HH: On Friday’s program, I interviewed former Secretary of Defense Gates and I asked him about former Secretary of State Clinton’s server and he said, that is of concern for him, he also said there is a high degree of probability that the Russians compromised that server. I know you agree with both of those statements, but do you think that is making an impact on the American people? Do they care? Can she run if she’s indicted, Carly Fiorina?
CF: Well, let’s certainly hope not. I hope she will be indicted, I don’t have a lot of confidence, frankly, that she will be indicted. Remember what happened at the end of last week. Suddenly, the State Department says, “Well, we need another month” to produce all this, and there’s a snowstorm, and isn’t it convenient that month pushes everything past the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary. I’m sorry, but I’m very suspicious just as 75-percent of the American people now think the federal government’s corrupt, I agree with them, so I don’t have a lot of faith in this system. The American people care, I certainly hope so, but I will continue to say, the only way to hold Mrs. Clinton truly accountable is on a general election debate stage and that I will do.
HH: So you think that the State Department used the snowstorm as an excuse to withhold the emails they ought to have produced last week?
CF: That’s what they said. They said, “We need time, there’s a big snowstorm, we need a month.” I don’t know what a snowstorm had to do with a month, but they linked the snowstorm, the delay in the month, in their statement.
HH: Now a question that very few people in the Republican primary can answer other than you, I don’t know that anyone else, other than you, had SAPSCI clearances ever in their career. I just don’t know. But based upon what you know about SAPSCI clearances, is it possible for her not to have known she was receiving that category of information and storing it on her server improperly?
CF: I don’t think it was possible or her not to have known. If she claimed she did not know, then she is grossly imcompetent. So either this is negligence, incompetence, or worse, what I’ve said, all along, she did this because she wanted to cover her tracks.
HH: Carly Fiorina, when you were on the advisory board at the CIA, how did you receive communications from them which again, would’ve contained information of this sort of sensitivity?
CF: Oh, I did not receive communications from them on my device, I had to surrender my devices every time I went into the CIA. Much of what we talked about had to be spoken about in skiff in a secure facility within the CIA. I can remember having personnel discussions at the CIA about operations and we had to go into a skiff to have those conversations. That’s why it’s inconceivable that she didn’t realize, and if her staff, or for some reason, were removing these labels, then the problem goes much deeper.
HH: It does indeed, Carly Fiorina, we will talk again before Iowa. Thanks for joining me on the road. Drive safely over to Council Bluffs.
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