The transcript of my conversation with Senator Jon Kyl from yesterday’s program is here. Watch Kyl –and the other retiring senators– over the next few months. Unlike the Budget Commission, this group of people have power to put an issue on the Senate’s agenda if the president will support what they propose. Kyl’s remarks to me, while opaque, echo those of Tom Coburn on the Wednesday program. Serious people know the spending crisis is real and poses grave threats to the country.