“THEY DON’T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT GOVERNING” CONSERVATIVE MEDIA’S INFLUENCE ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY” by Jackie Calmes
The New York Times’ Jackie Calmes joined me today to discuss her lengthy report down while a fellow at Harvard’s Shorenstein Center. This is the latest in a line of conversations about the new media v. old, and conservative media v. the Manhattan-Beltway media elite that includes a memorable two-parter with Mark Halperin —part one here, part two here— which led to his self-exile from my show, and an exchange with Thomas Edsall on newsroom bias among the formerly exclusive club of the bigs, excerpted here. Other related articles are here and here. Calmes’ piece is very readable but does include many assumptions with which many conservatives would simply disagree, and it concludes on our most basic disagreement: What, exactly, is “good governing” anyway?
Calmes is a pro’s pro, however, and her tone throughout –serious, sometimes amused, and always responsive and candid– is refreshing for a member of the D.C. reportorial elite at the Times (and previously the Journal). I look forward to her return to the show (and someday to Halperin’s, who told me he’d be back on the set of Morning Joe not long ago, but we’ll see…
HH: So pleased to welcome to the program now Jackie Calmes, national correspondent for the New York Times. You often see her on Washington Week in Review. She has been at the New York Times a lot of years. She also had 18 years at the Wall Street Journal. More importantly for my audience, she is a Toledo Mud Hen. She’s actually from Ohio originally. She is a Medill mafia person. She’s a Northwestern gal. But nevertheless, we are so pleased to welcome Jackie, a fellow Buckeye, great to have you.
JC: Wow, you’ve really done your homework on me.
HH: I know these things.
JC: I mean, when you can include the Mud Hens, that’s saying something.
HH: Well, which high school did you go to in Toledo?
JC: Central Catholic High School.
HH: All right. So I just had a feeling about this. I had…
JC: The Fighting Irish.
HH: The Fighting Irish, and I went to John F. Kennedy High School in Warren, Ohio, and we were the Eagles. But the Fighting Irish were at Canton Central Catholic, I believe. I mean, everyone was the Fighting Irish in all the Catholic schools hung together. And my daughter’s a Northwestern grad, and so I know the Medill mafia all through Washington, D.C. But you must have been one of the early Medill mafia to sort of blaze the way there.
JC: Well, I went to the, I started as a freshman there, and then I realized I wasn’t going to be able to afford it, so I went back to Toledo and I came back for graduate school. So I don’t have as much of a network of Northwestern people as I might have if I had gone there for four years as an undergraduate. But there are a fair number, and that’s why I went, because it was a good, it had such a good reputation. Continue Reading